1:23 p.m.
Hello
I want to install Adelie on my Desktop, intel pentiumD bios
After the live CD boots and we log into zsh shell, what next?
After login as root, how to run the installer?
Tried to explore the live CD by logging in as live. Just drops into zsh.
What next?
Documentation is non-existent for live CD
It says refer /usr/share/doc/handbook
There is no handbook in /usr/share/doc
6:13 p.m.
On Thu Jun 18 11:16 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
> Dear Max
> By Live CD, that is what I meant, 'Live' mode would be the
> appropriate word then?
> Your inputs are well received..Kindly advise if this 352MB iso,
> burnt on CD has everything? Should I get a DE with this?
I've been around adelie for 2 years and I was always excited with its
development and have to admit impatient at times.
:)
Live as far as I understand the term is a full functional linux
system, meaning you have most of the tools you need to do what you
like, install native or build and install other software. What is a
non-live system, a minimal system which only runs an install script.
In the older days there were more of them and less of live systems.
This is correct.
I have installed and use openbox without a DM ever since I started.
I
played with the live system so much and kept configuring things that I
was too worried to lose it through an installation, so I just copied
the live system into a an empty partition. Didn't even bother to
change my username, I am still called live. I don't use the service
management that is used currently, s6 init and 66 on top of it just as
found on obarun and void. Where my other installations are nice sports
cars, I see adelie as a pure race car, if this makes sense.
It is so good it should be illegal
We are all glad to hear this. :)
Max
7:16 a.m.
Dear Max
By Live CD, that is what I meant, 'Live' mode would be the appropriate word
then?
Your inputs are well received..Kindly advise if this 352MB iso, burnt on CD has
everything? Should I get a DE with this?
I've been around adelie for 2 years and I was always excited with its development and
have to admit impatient at times.
Live as far as I understand the term is a full functional linux system, meaning you have
most of the tools you need to do what you like, install native or build and install other
software. What is a non-live system, a minimal system which only runs an install script.
In the older days there were more of them and less of live systems.
I have installed and use openbox without a DM ever since I started. I played with the live
system so much and kept configuring things that I was too worried to lose it through an
installation, so I just copied the live system into a an empty partition. Didn't even
bother to change my username, I am still called live. I don't use the service
management that is used currently, s6 init and 66 on top of it just as found on obarun and
void. Where my other installations are nice sports cars, I see adelie as a pure race car,
if this makes sense.
It is so good it should be illegal
1:45 a.m.
Dear Max
I beg your pardon. I apologize if I have hurt you. That was not
my intention. May be, I should not have keyed in my thoughts.
I am aware of the issues with development of free software. I had expressed
in my email last to awilfox. I am aware of your constraints...man-power,
finances...
Really sorry. I am a supporter of free software...foolishly, inadverently I
have hurt you...
You are all doing a good job. I am with you...
Please, I downloaded the x86_64, full iso. 352MB...
What I meant is, when this CD boots up, it says, if you want to install,
login as 'root'
If you want to explore, play around, login as 'live'
By Live CD, that is what I meant, 'Live' mode would be the appropriate word
then?
Your inputs are well received..Kindly advise if this 352MB iso, burnt on CD
has everything? Should I get a DE with this?
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 10:27 am Max Rees, <maxcrees(a)me.com> wrote:
On Thu Jun 18 10:09 AM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
> I followed your instructions. It is trying to fetch some packages from a
> web server.
> Why? I have not installed Adelie yet. What will it do after fetching the
> packages?
> I think this is all ridiculous....Live CD means everything should be self
> contained...not try to fetch from web...
Reading from the downloads page:
https://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0/iso/rc1/
> If you don't have an always-on Internet connection, or you want to
> install Adelie Linux on a computer that doesn't have a connection,
> choose the full (Full Installation) ISO for your processor type.
> If you have a way to download packages on the target computer, you may
> choose the live ISO. Note: An active Internet connection will be
> required to complete the installation if you use the live ISO.
> Wireless chipsets may not be functional. If you aren't sure if your
> wireless chipset is supported by Linux, use the full ISO.
If you want a fully self-contained CD that doesn't need to download any
packages, pick the "full" version.
> Really...very much disappointed, frustrated.....
> Pl. Do not use the term Live CD as yet...nothing is live...
It provides a live shell environment. A live GUI environment and
installer is forthcoming.
We appreciate the feedback, and I understand your frustration, but the
tone of this email is unwarranted. We're moving as fast as we can with
one employee and a small team of volunteers.
Max
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12:57 a.m.
On Thu Jun 18 10:09 AM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
I followed your instructions. It is trying to fetch some packages
from a
web server.
Why? I have not installed Adelie yet. What will it do after fetching the
packages?
I think this is all ridiculous....Live CD means everything should be self
contained...not try to fetch from web...
Reading from the downloads page:
https://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0/iso/rc1/
If you don't have an always-on Internet connection, or you want
to
install Adelie Linux on a computer that doesn't have a connection,
choose the full (Full Installation) ISO for your processor type.
If you have a way to download packages on the target computer, you
may
choose the live ISO. Note: An active Internet connection will be
required to complete the installation if you use the live ISO.
Wireless chipsets may not be functional. If you aren't sure if your
wireless chipset is supported by Linux, use the full ISO.
If you want a fully self-contained CD that doesn't need to download any
packages, pick the "full" version.
Really...very much disappointed, frustrated.....
Pl. Do not use the term Live CD as yet...nothing is live...
It provides a live shell environment. A live GUI environment and
installer is forthcoming.
We appreciate the feedback, and I understand your frustration, but the
tone of this email is unwarranted. We're moving as fast as we can with
one employee and a small team of volunteers.
Max
12:39 a.m.
I followed your instructions. It is trying to fetch some packages from a
web server.
Why? I have not installed Adelie yet. What will it do after fetching the
packages?
I think this is all ridiculous....Live CD means everything should be self
contained...not try to fetch from web...
Really...very much disappointed, frustrated.....
Pl. Do not use the term Live CD as yet...nothing is live...
Mine is a wireless network. Not yet set it
Any way...thanks for your inputs...
I will try Adelie Linux when it is fully released..
Offtopic / Background
Was waiting for Dragora3 from a long time....which is also libre
linux....some how, that is also held up. Dragora 2.2 was installed on the
Libreboot laptop that I bought, T400, from techno-ethical....
I wanted to try out Adelie-linux on my desktop, before making a permanent
install on this T400..
If Dragora 3 releases before Adelie...I will go with it..
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 6:43 am Max Rees, <maxcrees(a)me.com> wrote:
On Thu Jun 18 06:06 AM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
> Ok. Understood
> How to explore the Live CD? It says have fun and play around with it.
How?
> Zsh terminal...how to get a desktop env?
You need to install a desktop environment; the RC1 CD does not come with
one already installed.
Your options are:
* lxqt-desktop (LXQt)
* mate-complete (MATE)
* plasma-desktop (KDE Plasma 5.18)
* xfce-desktop (XFCE 4)
You'll also want to install "sddm" and "x11" to get a full
out-of-the-box X11 experience.
For example, if I wanted to test out plasma-desktop, as "root" I would
run:
apk add plasma-desktop sddm x11
service sddm start
And that should take you to a graphical login screen where you can
hopefully login as "live".
If it instead shows a black screen forever, or something else, we will
need to examine the Xorg logs and see why it's not starting.
Max
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9:13 p.m.
On Thu Jun 18 06:06 AM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
Ok. Understood
How to explore the Live CD? It says have fun and play around with it. How?
Zsh terminal...how to get a desktop env?
You need to install a desktop environment; the RC1 CD does not come with
one already installed.
Your options are:
* lxqt-desktop (LXQt)
* mate-complete (MATE)
* plasma-desktop (KDE Plasma 5.18)
* xfce-desktop (XFCE 4)
You'll also want to install "sddm" and "x11" to get a full
out-of-the-box X11 experience.
For example, if I wanted to test out plasma-desktop, as "root" I would
run:
apk add plasma-desktop sddm x11
service sddm start
And that should take you to a graphical login screen where you can
hopefully login as "live".
If it instead shows a black screen forever, or something else, we will
need to examine the Xorg logs and see why it's not starting.
Max
8:36 p.m.
Ok. Understood
How to explore the Live CD? It says have fun and play around with it. How?
Zsh terminal...how to get a desktop env?
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 4:13 am Max Rees, <maxcrees(a)me.com> wrote:
On Wed Jun 17 10:53 PM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
> Hello
> I want to install Adelie on my Desktop, intel pentiumD bios
> After the live CD boots and we log into zsh shell, what next?
> After login as root, how to run the installer?
> Tried to explore the live CD by logging in as live. Just drops into zsh.
> What next?
The automated installer (Project Horizon) is still a work in progress.
It is expected to be released in the RC2 ISO sometime in the next month
or two. Until then, there are instructions on how to manually install on
the wiki:
https://wiki.adelielinux.org/wiki/HOWTO:Manually_install_Ad%C3%A9lie_Linux
> Documentation is non-existent for live CD
> It says refer /usr/share/doc/handbook
> There is no handbook in /usr/share/doc
The handbooks have not been packaged yet - this is one of the last items
before 1.0-STABLE that needs to be completed. They are however available
on the web:
https://help.adelielinux.org/
Max
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6:51 p.m.
On Wed Jun 17 10:53 PM, Sanjay Mysore wrote:
Hello
I want to install Adelie on my Desktop, intel pentiumD bios
After the live CD boots and we log into zsh shell, what next?
After login as root, how to run the installer?
Tried to explore the live CD by logging in as live. Just drops into zsh.
What next?
The automated installer (Project Horizon) is still a work in progress.
It is expected to be released in the RC2 ISO sometime in the next month
or two. Until then, there are instructions on how to manually install on
the wiki:
https://wiki.adelielinux.org/wiki/HOWTO:Manually_install_Ad%C3%A9lie_Linux
Documentation is non-existent for live CD
It says refer /usr/share/doc/handbook
There is no handbook in /usr/share/doc
The handbooks have not been packaged yet - this is one of the last items
before 1.0-STABLE that needs to be completed. They are however available
on the web:
https://help.adelielinux.org/
Max
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