2:18 a.m.
hello,
I'm interested in installing adelie linux and test it however, after downloading the
full iso (since the live iso cannot find my wireless card) and booting it (with grub
because it wont boot from the bios as live iso usually do on my pc) I couldn't find a
guide to install from the full iso.
the one on your website refers to the live iso, which I undertsand is different and
requires an internet connection.
I'd appreciate if you could point me to the right documentation so that I can proceed
to install and try adelie linux.
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Antonio Maccagnan <amc252(a)gmail.com>
8:52 p.m.
On 03/09/19 01:18, Antonio Maccagnan wrote:
hello,
I'm interested in installing adelie linux and test it however, after
downloading the full iso (since the live iso cannot find my wireless
card) and booting it (with grub because it wont boot from the bios as
live iso usually do on my pc) I couldn't find a guide to install from
the full iso. the one on your website refers to the live iso, which I
undertsand is different and requires an internet connection. I'd
appreciate if you could point me to the right documentation so that I
can proceed to install and try adelie linux.
It's mostly the same process, but you can skip the networking set up and
you will need to add:
-X /media/live/packages
to all of the apk commands.
If you run in to any trouble, please let us know. The full ISO has not
been tested as much as the live ISO just yet.
Best,
--arw
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A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux
https://www.adelielinux.org
8:57 p.m.
Hello Antonio,
Do you the manufacturer and model of the wireless card in your computer?
What architecture is this? I'd like to try and help you get the wireless
card working from the installer, but it's likely going to require
modifying the kernel config and shipping a new kernel for whichever
architecture you're using.
It's very important for our users to be able to install Adélie out of
the box with minimal trouble, and in my mind, non-functional networking
on the install image qualifies as irritating.
Please let us know if you run into any additional issues.
On 3/8/2019 11:18 PM, Antonio Maccagnan wrote:
hello,
I'm interested in installing adelie linux and test it however, after downloading the
full iso (since the live iso cannot find my wireless card) and booting it (with grub
because it wont boot from the bios as live iso usually do on my pc) I couldn't find a
guide to install from the full iso.
the one on your website refers to the live iso, which I undertsand is different and
requires an internet connection.
I'd appreciate if you could point me to the right documentation so that I can proceed
to install and try adelie linux.
--
Dan Theisen
9:10 p.m.
On 03/09/19 19:57, Dan Theisen wrote:
I'd like to try and help you get the wireless card working from
the
installer, but it's likely going to require modifying the kernel
config and shipping a new kernel for whichever architecture you're
using.
It's very important for our users to be able to install Adélie out of
the box with minimal trouble, and in my mind, non-functional
networking on the install image qualifies as irritating.
The problem is likely not the kernel configuration, but the lack of
firmware. We can't ship binary blob firmware on our install discs; the
firmware would need to be installed to something like a USB pen drive
and then copied to the proper place. Further, that can only be done if
the user actually understands and agrees to the license agreement for
the firmware (which is likely user-hostile and extremely long).
Unfortunately it will be very difficult to support wireless installation
of Adélie Linux because of manufacturers requiring proprietary firmware.
Best,
--arw
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A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux
https://www.adelielinux.org
12:23 a.m.
[Resending because Antonio is not subscribed.]
On 03/09/19 01:18, Antonio Maccagnan wrote:
hello,
I'm interested in installing adelie linux and test it however, after
downloading the full iso (since the live iso cannot find my wireless
card) and booting it (with grub because it wont boot from the bios as
live iso usually do on my pc) I couldn't find a guide to install from
the full iso. the one on your website refers to the live iso, which I
undertsand is different and requires an internet connection. I'd
appreciate if you could point me to the right documentation so that I
can proceed to install and try adelie linux.
It's mostly the same process, but you can skip the networking set up and
you will need to add:
-X /media/live/packages
to all of the apk commands.
If you run in to any trouble, please let us know. The full ISO has not
been tested as much as the live ISO just yet.
Best,
--arw
--
A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux
https://www.adelielinux.org
10:01 p.m.
Hello everybody and thanks for your replies.
--arw
the main problem I have encountered was that the system did not recognize my wireless
card, thus did not show wlan0 among the options.
Like you say, the module was there (iwlwifi on 64 bit and b43 on 32 bit on my machines)
but the firmware was absent.
There is probably a way to upload the firmware from a USB (as I do with Debian non
firmware .iso) but I do not know how to do that in Adelie (I'm totally new to
Adelie's ways and not an expert at Linux in general).
Since this issue might arise to other users, it might be good to address it in the
manual.
This issue is critical only if one has to install from the Live medium, since once the
system was installed one can add the firmware needed and edit the wireless configuration.
Still, I had to manually modprobe the kernel iwlwifi module before enabling the net.wlan0
service, cause I also haven't addressed yet the question of how loading kernel modules
at boot.
Anyways, this was testing and I have a spare partition just to tinker and learn, I ended
up mounting the partition on the live CD, getting to the /packages directory and install
everything to the partiton with # apk --root /target add *.apk.
Grub found the kernel and the system booted, then I configured the wireless and added the
service.
However, since I like Adelie's concept very much and would like to follow its
development, I will properly re-install the full CD again tonight and see how that goes.
Best.
Antonio
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Antonio Maccagnan <antoniomaccagnan(a)gmail.com>
1:05 a.m.
hello,
this is the way I was able to install Adelie from the full beta2 iso on my two laptops,
old compaq presario 32 bit with broadcom wifi card (driver b43) and dell inspiron 64 bit
with intel wifi (driver iwlwifi).
first off, on the dell the 64 bit .iso won't boot, so at the grub menu I did:
c (to get the menu)
ls (to see partitions, my usb was fd)
set root=(fd,1)
chainloader +1
boot
once I logged in as root I followed some of the steps in the manual but some won't
work, so, to install on the sda8 partition already formatted, I did:
# ount /dev/sda8 /target
# mkdir -p /target/etc/apk
# cp -r /etc/apk/keys /target/etc/apk/
# mkdir -p /target/etc/apk
# cp -r /etc/apk/keys /target/etc/apk/
# apk --root /target --initdb add (You will see: OK: 0 MiB in 0 packages)
# cp /etc/apk/repositories /target/etc/apk/
# apk --root /target update
# cd /packages/<packages subdir> (x64 on 64 bit and pmmx on 32 bit)
# apk --root /target --allow-untrusted add *.apk (to install all packages)
# cp -PRr /target/usr/share/openrc/runlevels /target/etc/
# cp -p /etc/shells /target/etc/
# cp -p /etc/resolv.conf /target/etc/
(since nano is not available in the installer and I dislike vim I skipped creating fstab
now)
# echo adelie> /target/etc/hostname
# reboot
I got into my usual distro, mounted -wr /dev/sda8 on /mnt/sda8 and:
copied my working /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to
/mnt/sda8/etc/wpa_supplicant/
copied my working /lib/firmware to/mnt/sda8/lib/
created /mnt/sda8/etc/fstab file adding the right UUID from blkid
update grub
rebooted into adelie and:
# modprobe b43 (on 32 bit, iwlwifi on 64)
since my wifi card on wlan0 was not detected and there was no /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 file I
did this:
# cp /etc/init.d/net.lo /root
# mv net.lo /etc/init.d/net.wlan0
# ln -s /etc/init.d/net.lo /etc/init.d/net.wlan0
# rc-update add net.wlan0 default
# service net.wlan0 start
# ping google.com (yeah!)
From there on is still all to be seen, but Adelie is installed and connected.
Best.
Antonio
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Antonio Maccagnan <antoniomaccagnan(a)gmail.com>
5:17 p.m.
On Monday, March 11, 2019 7:05 AM, Antonio Maccagnan <antoniomaccagnan(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
hello,
this is the way I was able to install Adelie from the full beta2 iso on my two laptops,
old compaq presario 32 bit with broadcom wifi card (driver b43) and dell inspiron 64 bit
with intel wifi (driver iwlwifi).
first off, on the dell the 64 bit .iso won't boot, so at the grub menu I did:
> c (to get the menu)
> ls (to see partitions, my usb was fd)
> set root=(fd,1)
> chainloader +1
> boot
once I logged in as root I followed some of the steps in the manual but some won't
work, so, to install on the sda8 partition already formatted, I did:
ount /dev/sda8 /target
mount not ount
Antonio Maccagnan antoniomaccagnan(a)gmail.com
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It seems as Adelie is heading towards the libre route, undeclared maybe, but non-free
blobs are not by default included
Wifi free software I believe only exist for atheros chipped wifi cards. You can run a
non-free repeater and connect to it through ethernet and still have a free system.
For a while I had to use wifi as my only source of connection to the internet and it was a
pain, but eventually I discarded it and all software related to wifi.
9:44 a.m.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:17:43PM +0000, Fungi4All wrote:
It seems as Adelie is heading towards the libre route, undeclared
maybe, but non-free blobs are not by default included.
Adélie indeed only ships libre software, as mentioned on
https://www.adelielinux.org/ and
https://help.adelielinux.org/html/admin/introduction.html#idm70361355663376 .
There is however the independent "APK Fission" project which aims to
provide software which doesn't adhere to Adélie's license policy. Among
other things, it includes the linux-firmware package with firmware blobs
for common wifi chips and GPUs. You can find it here:
https://apkfission.net/
Cheers,
Luis
5:14 p.m.
Thanks,
that's nice to know for us laptop users.
If I might add my two cents on firmware, I love the way Debian installer scan your
hardware, identifies just what drivers you really need and offers to install them (either
from their firmware version or a file you provide on say a USB).
It very neat and minimal, installs a few mb rather than a hundred.
Among the distro I have tried, it's the only one with this approach.
Some say it's best to install all bunch of firmware just in case one changes some
components in the future, but I find this way better, perhaps because I use laptops and
also because one can always install the firmware for the new hardware if the need arises.
Best.
Antonio
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:44:21 +0100
Luis Ressel <aranea(a)aixah.de> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:17:43PM +0000, Fungi4All wrote:
>
> It seems as Adelie is heading towards the libre route, undeclared
> maybe, but non-free blobs are not by default included.
Adélie indeed only ships libre software, as mentioned on
https://www.adelielinux.org/ and
https://help.adelielinux.org/html/admin/introduction.html#idm70361355663376 .
There is however the independent "APK Fission" project which aims to
provide software which doesn't adhere to Adélie's license policy. Among
other things, it includes the linux-firmware package with firmware blobs
for common wifi chips and GPUs. You can find it here:
https://apkfission.net/
Cheers,
Luis
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